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Locations:

Arizona

Chandler, AZ
3405 West Chandler Boulevard
(480) 899-8088

Peoria, AZ
16160 North 83rd Avenue
(623) 776-0100

Phoenix, AZ
7000 E Mayo Boulevard
(480) 513-3811

 

Colorado

Colorado Springs, CO
7585 N Academy Boulevard
(719) 532-0032

Greenwood Village, CO
8121 E Arapahoe Road
(720) 529-9920

Lakewood (Belmar), CO
7111 W Alaska Drive
(303) 922-7907

 

Florida

Altamonte Springs, FL
451 East Altamonte Drive, Suite 2378
(407) 339-1186

Fort Myers, FL
4125 Cleveland Ave. Ste 1485A
(239) 936-2775

Orlando, FL
4054 Conroy Road
(407) 370-6412

 

Other States

Albuquerque, NM
2240 Louisiana Blvd. NE
(505) 884-2355

Henderson, NV
2270 Village Walk Drive
(702) 361-7468
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Oklahoma City, OK
1845 NW Expressway St
(405) 879-1700

Overland Park, KS
11900 Metcalf Avenue
(913) 663-2654

St. Louis (Des Peres), MO
1085 West County Center Drive
(314) 835-0545

Toledo, OH
5001 Monroe St
(419) 474-5061

Bakersfield, CA
10100 Stockdale Highway
(661) 663-3020

Burbank, CA
110 N. First Street
(818) 842-1334
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Downey, CA
12002 Lakewood Boulevard
(562) 803-9910

Irvine, CA
14346 Culver Drive
(949) 651-6087
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La Mirada, CA
14303 Firestone Boulevard
(714) 994-1474

Laguna Hills, CA
24155 Laguna Hills Mall Ste. 1055
(949) 454-9530
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Lakewood, CA
4630 Candlewood Street
(562) 529-3200

Montclair, CA
4949 S. Montclair Plaza Lane
(909) 621-3509

Palm Desert, CA
73833 Highway 111
(760) 340-0456

Rancho Bernardo, CA
17051 W. Bernardo Drive
(858) 487-7181
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Riverside, CA
3775 Tyler Street, Suite A
(951) 353-2200
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San Bernardino, CA
1050 E Harriman Place
(909) 799-9177
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San Marcos, CA

Burlingame, CA
1600 Old Bayshore Highway
(650) 259-9585

Campbell, CA
499 E. Hamilton Avenue
(408) 871-8401

Citrus Heights, CA
6063 Sunrise Mall
(916) 961-3628

Concord, CA
1225 Willow Pass Road
(925) 671-0119

Cupertino, CA
19780 Stevens Creek Boulevard
(408) 865-0701

Daly City, CA
75 Serramonte Center
(650) 985-5665

Dublin, CA
7202 Amador Plaza Road
(925) 803-0170

Emeryville, CA
5601 Bay Street
(510) 601-1001

Fremont, CA
39233 Fremont Boulevard
(510) 742-6221

Fresno, CA
7965 N. Blackstone Avenue
(559) 261-0325

Hayward, CA
24177 Southland Drive
(510) 266-0400

Modesto, CA
3401 Dale Road, Suite
(209) 544-1700

Sacramento (Arden Fair), CA
1500 Arden Way
(916) 564-2526

Stockton, CA
5202 Pacific Avenue
(209) 474-8800

thanks BG101

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Link to card

 

Model
Brand MSI
Model NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC
Interface
Interface PCI Express x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer NVIDIA
GPU GeForce 8800 GTS
Core alarm 575MHz
Stream Processors 96
Memory
Memory Alarm 1700MHz
Memory Size 320MB
Memory Interface 320-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 10
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV / S-Video Out
General
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution 2560 x 1600
RoHS Compliant Yes
SLI Supported Yes
Cooler With Fan
Power Connector 6 Pin
Dual-Link DVI Supported Yes
HDCP Ready Yes
Packaging
Package Contents NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC
Driver Disk
User Manual
HDTV Cable
S-Video Cable
Power Cable
2 x DVI to VGA/D-sub Adapter
Manufacturer Warranty
Parts 1 year limited
Labor 1 year limited

YMMV

Lowe's B&M

Found in zipcode 88001

Was at Lowe's bygone and they had a 1/2HP submersible Sump Pump
by Baptize Ace.

Was $137, now $20.

My bounded abundance had a abundance of 3 on the approval shelf.
All were new in box, [not affectation models]

The sku# is 53117, but it is no best listed on their website.

I accept the archetypal # is R5S-1.

SPECs are:
* Ideal for abundant assignment use in basements or ablaze bartering applications
defective common baptize drainage
* 1-1/2" discharge
* 115 volt oil-filled motor for above calefaction dissipation
* Built-in afflict protection
* Rugged casting adamant apartment with corrosion-resistant awning and base
* High achievement with lifts to 24'
* Maximum breeze of 53 GPM at 10' lift
* Replaces a lot of basement and submersible sump pumps in basins as baby as 14"
* Listed by Underwriters Laboratories

Details are at Baptize Ace:

picture
[4th pump from top, alone 1/2HP on this page]

manual

With a breeze amount of 53 gallons per minute, it could be acclimated to abandoned a aback backyard pond, horse tanks, etc.

VMware Red Tag Sale *Save 30% Instantly
Hurry, action expires 12/2/09 11:59 PT.
*Prices beneath reflect a 30% discount. Prices go up 12/3/09.

VMware Workstation 7 - $132.30 (normally about abreast $189)

link

Link

Ranks college than the 8800GTS on this chart.

There are Lots of items for $1 account the acceptable deal. Also get address to store
Lots of NFL CAPS
Huddies.
Under Garments acme and shirts
party ceramics for Women from 1$ deal
Link is not alive so go to www.walmart.com
then baddest the approval area and bang appearance all the items.
Then abbreviate Low to top price.
You will acquisition all .
If somebody can column the alive hotlink will advice as I am trying, but not accepting through.
Thanks
Edit by Moderator: Thank you for accommodating in the forums. However, this affair has been covered in a contempo column Here.

(expired: 11/11, amount raised)

EVGA Geforce GTX 280 SSC Edition 1GB Video Agenda for $435 with chargeless shipping, and a $30 mail-in rebate is available. This amount reflects a contempo $50 pricedrop. Its 3D performance is a little bigger than Radeon HD 4870 cards, and about two times bigger than a 8800 GTX card. It is a ability athirst card, acute a acceptable superior 500+ watt ability supply, and needs 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe ability connectors.

Far Cry 2 for free if registering the artefact with EVGA.

YMMV

Sears B&M

GE Bluetooth headset, was $49.99, now $4.97
Model # 86710
UPC 0 30878 86710 8

Found in zipcode 88001

picture of GE archetypal 86710
Though it is branded as GE, it was "made for" GE, but JASCO.
(it lists Jascoproducts.com on the aback of package).

(hope this isn't a repost).

Black Friday 2008

EVGA Geforce GTX 280 SSC Edition 1GB Video Agenda for $435 with chargeless shipping, and a $30 mail-in rebate is available. This amount reflects a contempo $50 pricedrop. Its 3D performance is a little bigger than Radeon HD 4870 cards, and about two times bigger than a 8800 GTX card. It is a ability athirst card, acute a acceptable superior 500+ watt ability supply, and needs 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe ability connectors.

Far Cry 2 for free if registering the artefact with EVGA.

OEM BlackBerry Bold Koskin Holster $4.95 shipped
OEM BlackBerry Bold Koskin Holster [all4cellular.com] Normally $14.95, now just $4.95, no advertisement required.

Manufacturer: BlackBerry
Part Number: HDW-18193-003
Compatible Phones & Headsets: BlackBerry Bold 9000, BlackBerry 8800, BlackBerry 8820, BlackBerry 8830

http://www.all4cellular.com/blackberry-bold-koskin-holster.html?...

# Proximity-sensing technology:

* Saves ability and maximizes array activity by automatically shutting off the screen
* Can actuate altered notification settings for admission calls, emails and added functions based on in-holster and out-of-holster profiles

# Luxurious and abiding exterior
# Swivel blow opens advanced and rotates
# Magnetic cease BlackBerry holster

www.all4cellular.com [all4cellular.com]

 

Deal originally acquaint by Selma (elsewhere)

Costco in Niles, IL has Women Kenneth Cole adapted down belong for $10 (50% off aboriginal amount of 19.99). Bunch of these (mostly small)were placed in the average of store. The account amount is 284919 (though it does not show-up at costco.com). This account is the aforementioned as the following:

Link

It could be YMMV. Good Luck.

http://www.WalMart.com/Ronco-Compact-Showtime-Rotisserie/ip/10197092?sourceid=24615408880000098480#[/L]

Free website to abundance shipping[/L]

Fifty percent off all chargers and charger accessories (in the charger category) at www.all4cellular.com starting today (November 8) at 7:30 PM EST with advertisement cipher CHARGEME50. First 500 customers, one per customer. Don't overlook FREE Shipping!

http://www.all4cellular.com/chargers.html (any artefact in that category)

Samples below!

Blackberry [all4cellular.com]: CURVE, PEARL, 6210, 6220, 6230, 6280, 6510, 7100g, 7100i, 7100r, 7100t, 7100v, 7100x, 7105t, 7210, 7230, 7250, 7280, 7290, 7510, 7520, 7130e, 8100, 8120, 8130, 8700c, 8700f, 8700g, 8700r, 8700v, 8800, 8820, 8830, 8300, 8310, 8330, 8100, 8110, 8120, 8130, Bold 9000

OEM New Blackberry Travel Wall Charger [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM New Blackberry Travel Wall Charger (Micro) [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM New Blackberry Pearl Charging Pod [all4cellular.com], commonly $9.95, with cipher $4.97

Motorola [all4cellular.com]: RAZR V3, V3c, V3m, V3i, V3t, V3e, V3r, V3xx, # SLVR L6, L7, L8, L2, # PEBL U6, E680, E680i, A668, A780, V6, V235, V270, V280, V323, V325, V360, V361, V365, L2, V190, V195, C290, V190, V195, V197, V235, V323, V325, V360, V361, V365, W315, W385, ic402, ic502 # Motorola Moto Q, Q9m PDA # Bluetooth Headset H3, H350, H500, H550, H605, H700 H371, H375, T305 Car kit, # KRZR K1, K1M, # RIZR Z3 # MAXX Ve

OEM NewMotorola Travel Wall Charger SPN5185B [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM NewMotorola Micro Travel Wall Charger SPN5334A [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM NewMotorola Mini USB to Micro USB Adapter [all4cellular.com], commonly $3.95, with cipher $1.97 shipped

Nokia [all4cellular.com]: 2365i, 2366i, 2855i, 2865i, 3155, 3155i, 3156i, 5300, 6102, 6102i, 6103, 6126, 6133, 6136, 6282, 6265i, 6165i, 6155i, 6126, 6103, 6102i, 6102, 6101, 3155i, 6155, 6165, 6265, 6275, 6282, 7370, 7373, E61, E62, N73, N75, N80, N80IE, N90, N91, N95, N800, 5310 Xpressmusic, 6682, 7610, 770, N800, 135, 2365i, 2366i, 2855i, 2865i, 3155, 3155i, 3156i, 5300, 6102, 6102i, 6103, 6126, 6133, 6136, 6155, 6165, 6263, 6265, 6275, 6280, 6282, 6300, 7370, 7373, 7390, E61, E61i, E62, E65, E90, N73, N75, N76, N80, N80IE, N90, N93, N95, N800 and more

OEM NewNokia Wall Charger AC-3U [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM New Nokia Car Charger DC-4 [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

Samsung [all4cellular.com]: Armani P520, DM-s105, i780, J700, miCoach, SCH-R200, SCH-R210 Spex, SCH-R300, SCH-r400 (Metro PCS), SCH-R410 Metro PCS, SCH-R430 MyShot, SCH-R500 Hue, SCH-R610 Cricket, SCH-U470 Juke, SCH-U700 Gleam, SCH-U706 Muse, SCH-U900 FlipShot, SCH-U940 Glyde, SGH-A117, SGH-A127, SGH-A226, SGH-A517, SGH-A737 / SGH-A736, SGH-A747 SLM, SGH-A827 Access, SGH-F200, SGH-F210, SGH-F490 / SGH-F498, SGH-F700, SGH-G600, SGH-G800, SGH-i450, SGH-i617 BlackJack II, SGH-i640, SGH-L760, SGH-T409, SGH-T429, SGH-T439, SGH-T539 Beat, SGH-T639, SGH-T729 Blast, SGH-T739 Katalyst, SGH-T819, SGH-U900 Soul, SPH-A513 Fin, SPH-A523 Mysto, SPH-i325 Ace, SPH-M300, SPH-M305, SPH-M510, SPH-M520 Qwest
/ M800 INSTINCT, T919 Behold, t919, Gravity, t459, Epix, i907, Memoir, SGH-T929, Delve, Gravity, T459, Omnia SCH-i910

OEM NewSamsung Wall Charger ATADS10JBE [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM NewSamsung Wall Charger ATADS10JSE [all4cellular.com], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

HTC [all4cellular.com]: T-Mobile * MDA * SDA * Tilt * Tilt Pro\ * TyYN * Dash * Dash 3G * WING * SHADOW * G1 * G2 / My-Touch * Tuch * Tuch Pro Also can be acclimated for: Cingular * 2125 * 8125 * 8525 * 8925

OEM NewHTC Wall Charger PSAA05A-050 [HTC Wall Charger PSAA05A-050], commonly $4.95, with cipher $2.47 shipped

OEM New HTC AC Wall Charger [all4cellular.com], commonly $9.95, with cipher $4.97

OEM New HTC Car Charger (MyTouch 3G) [all4cellular.com], commonly $9.95, with cipher $4.97

And abounding more...

YMMV

B&M only

found in zip 88001

D-link
model WBR-1310 router, Was $39.99, now 20.xx
Lowes SKU# 253439
pic

 

D-link
wireless USB-G, Was $35, now $17.48
Model WUA-1340

Lowes SKU# 253440

pic

Link:

http://www.Newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835887006

http://www.Newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835887014

Black Friday 2008

BFG GeForce 8800GT OC Video Agenda (512MB DDR3, PCI-E 2.0, DX10, OpenGL 2.0)
$50.00 Rebate

BFG:
FRYS.com #: 5434319
Your seek for the absolute cartoon agenda is over. The ideal aggregate of power, performance, and price, the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT OC cartoon agenda offers 112 beck processors, a 512MB 256-bit anatomy buffer, standard-setting GeForce 8 Series appearance and, a conspicuously immersive DirectX 10 gaming experience. Ultra-realistic smoke, rain, explosions, lighting, area anamorphosis and motion becloud accredit jealousy-inducing, lightning-fast gameplay in the hottest games, including Crysis, Hellgate: London, Call of Duty 4, and Gears of War. With abounding abutment for PCI Express 2.0 and featuring additional bearing NVIDIA PureVideo HD engine, the SLI-Ready BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT OC cartoon agenda was account the wait.

Price: $ 139.99
After Rebate: $ 89.99

Link

Black Friday 2008

NEW Canon CanoScan LiDE 100 2923B002 2400 x 4800dpi 48bit USB 2.0 Hi-Speed Interface Flatbed Scanner - Retail $69.99- $20IR= $49.99 + FS PRODUCT LINK

Features:
- 19200 Dpi by software; 2400x4800dpi optical
- USB 2.0 Powered
- ArcSoft PhotoStudio,MP Navigator EX, Solution Menu4 software included
- detects the blazon of aboriginal you're scanninga photo, business card, anthology or formautomatically adjusts settings for the optimal results, again scans and saves the image.

This access akin scanner is the antecedent of the accepted LIDE90 archetypal and abundant bigger specs than the LIDE25

OR if your searching for college res. able photo/film scanner the Canon CanoScan 8800F 2168B002 4800 x 9600dpi 48bit USB Interface Flatbed Scanner is traveling for $169.99+ FS PRODUCT LINK

-4800 x 9600dpi Resolution
- 8.5" x 11.7" max certificate size
-Adobe Photoshop Elements CD-ROM
- 35mm (Negative/Positive), 35mm (Negative/Positive Mounted Slides), 120 Roll
- Direct browse to PDF

All the chump reviews are all a 4-5 egg!

Black Friday 2008

$17.99 Blu-rays at Fry's B&M

Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (#5216027)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (#5216017)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (#5408109)
National Treasure (#5538790)
National Treasure: Book of Secrets (#5538800)
Ratatouille (#5369468)

Movies aswell cover $10 Movie Cash for Bolt

Link to DFW Ad

Black Friday 2008

Looks like Sears is active a scattering of promotions on accoutrement today.

Check out the being HERE

TODAY (10/28) ONLY: 20% off:
- Craftsman Mechanics Tool Sets
- Craftsman Mechanics Air Tools
- Craftsman Tool Storage
- Craftsman Impact Socket Sets
and 50% off THESE Items

Plus, online alone through 10/30, 10% Off orders $149 - $350 and 20% Off orders over $350 thru 10/30/2008. Excludes Clearance, Closeouts, Compressors, Portable Power Tools, and Craftsman CompuCarve.

Plus Plus, the accord of the day HERE

Black Friday 2008

Microsoft came out with a new bluetooth keyboard recently. It is basically just a approved laptop keyboard, angled slightly, with a alone numeric keypad. Staples has it for $90 in their food but $70 on their web page, additional there is printable 10% off coupon, additional 10% tax actuality in Cook County. So that fabricated it $70 out the aperture for me. As far as I know, bluetooth encryption for a keyboard has not been torn yet. The added wireless keyboards accept been compromised years ago.

Link

Now if I could alone acquisition a appropriate bluetooth abrasion or trackball.

First of, this is absolutely a YMMV because of the array aspect of this and not acrimonious up assertive locations so if that adventitious isn't for you, again amuse move on.

Best Buy has a advance traveling on area if you buy a Sony Bravia 1080p TV, a Sony Bravia Soundbar, and Sony 80gb PS3 again you get $500 off the absolute order. What you do is you abode an adjustment for instore aces up for all three of them. However, set the abundance for the items you don't wish to a altered abundance than you plan to in fact visit. The $500 comes off the amount of the TV so all should plan with this. There is a YMMV that Best Buy will not accession the amount of the TV if you don't aces it up, but it may be a adequately simple altercation back you alone accustomed the $899 + tax allegation (and that's what your cancellation will show).

The steps:
1. Add anniversary of items to your barrow on BestBuy.com
(promo hotlink (all items on aforementioned page))
Sony Bravia 1080p 40" LCD HDTV
Sony Bravia Sound Bar
Sony 80gb PlayStation 3

2. Select instore aces up for anniversary of the items. Set the abundance for the TV to the one you'll in fact visit. Set the food for the added two items to something else.

3. Amount of the TV should be $899.99

4. Go to the abundance and aces up the TV and accompany it home. Don't aces up the added two things unless you wish them.

5. Watch your acclaim agenda account to accomplish abiding you're not answerable added for the TV.

(As an abreast the $500 is advancing off the approved amount of $1399.99 not the accepted auction amount of $1,249.. Best Buy's abundant business tactics!)

Black Friday 2008

Craftsman Abundant Duty Jack Combo with 2x Jack stands and 36" backcountry - $89.99

Price - 149.99
Discount 60.00
Sale Price 89.99
Coupon Cipher - 7.00
Final Price - $82.99

Found Coupon cipher at addition website - that ability work
$7 with code 777 = $83.

It's on auction for $60.00 priced beneath a commensurable Harbor Freight attic Jack - if you attending at agnate articles with a 1 year backup warranty. Got acceptable reviews - 39 absolute - 4.5 stars out of 5 and if I hadn't afresh purchased a agnate jack - I'd be all over this deal.

Details
Contains floor jack,
2 jack stands and a
36 in. creeper.

Jack has a lift ambit of 5-1/2 to 19-3/4 in. and a 3 ton best load. Large foreground auto admeasurement 3-1/2 in. bore by 1-1/4 in. wide. Meets ANSI/ASME PALD account backpack standards.

* Jack stands action 10 acme adjustments from 10-5/8 in. minimum to 16-1/2 in. maximum. 3 ton best amount per pair. Meets ANSI/ASME PALD jack angle standards.
* Backcountry has a 300 lb. best amount and can be breach into 2 pieces if adapted (for simple storage, not for alone use). 8 brawl address casters with 360 amount range. Built-in arch blow with 2-1/2 in. added for added comfort.
* For added artefact analysis or chump abutment on this jack, amuse alarm 1.888.448.6746

I accept a agnate jack ( altered cast aforementioned appearance ) - and they are appealing abundant in weight - but move about appealing easiy on the floor. Probably something you'd acquisition a bend of the barn attic for - rather than appropriation to put on a shelf if you're done application it.

(expired: 8pm EDT)

Coupon cipher DTTS54687 gives 50% off the account amount (the pre-discounted price) of an HP TouchSmart IQ500t All-In-One PC. For example, bang "customize and buy" next to the abject agreement which is $1200 afore automated $300 abatement (the baby amount apparent in atramentous while configuring the PC, not the big amount in red), again administer the advertisement during checkout to get it for $600. The abject agreement includes a 22" Blow Screen, Windows Vista Premium 64-bit with a chargeless advancement to Windows 7, Core 2 Duo T5800 2.0GHz processor, 4GB memory, 500GB harder drive, CD/DVD Burner, Wireless LAN (wifi) agenda with Bluetooth, anamnesis agenda reader, chip speakers, and humble keyboard & mouse.

$600 is a appealing acceptable accord for a cool-looking desktop PC with acceptable specs and a blow screen.

The advertisement gives 50% off of the absolute computer, including upgrades. Some upgrades to consider: upgrade the Intel T5800 2.0GHz CPU to an Intel P8800 2.66GHz for $180, or $90 afterwards the advertisement is activated in the cart. TV Tuner with PVR Remote for $50, or $25 afterwards advertisement is activated in the cart. Norton Internet Security 2009, 3 Year License for $79, or $40 afterwards advertisement is activated in the cart. upgrade from Windows Vista Home Premium to Vista Business for $100, or $50 afterwards advertisement is activated in the cart. It aswell gives you a chargeless advancement to Windows 7 Premium instead of Windows 7 Home, which would commonly be a $100 amount difference. This may be an accidental advancement for home users, though. The IQ500t has a acceptable review, and a newer archetypal with hardly bigger specs sells for about $1100.

YMMV

Walgreen's B&M

Found in zip 88001

Sylvania 2GB SMP2002 Compact MP3 Player

Originally $25, now $6.24

link to pic

A basal no frill's MP3 player.

Built in rechargable array (charges thru the USB cable).

Works accept for audio books (as it lacks any array of display).

If you accept a mix of MP3's, it can be a bit aching to try and chose a accurate song(s) to play.

Specs are:
* Supports MP3, WMA
* Built-in Lithium Rechargeable Array
* USB 2.0
* Included Accessories: Ear Buds, USB Cable, Instruction Manual

Out of 4 walgreen's in town, alone one abundance still had any in banal at $6.24
(one added abundance in boondocks still had endemic at $12, so prices are YMMV)